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Throng715

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Secured investment contracts

What is the down side? All I know is what I have read on http://www.stansberryresearch.com/pro/0806TINLEGSP/ETINJ602/200806TIN- LEG-SP&o=1500750&u=36839271&l=1583712

and this sounds too good to be true. There must be a down side. Where can I find them and learn more?

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Answer 1 / 6 - Submitted 510 days ago...

Fakery

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there are very few secured investments out there. they are usually CDs and standard savings account that pay like 3% to 6% a year. Which is unlike this secured investment contract

i would personally be leary of anyone offering a secured investment with a 187% rate of return.

if you do decide to invest, go into knowing that you could be losing all of what you invest and never see a penny back. if you are ok with that, then go for it. if not, then i wouldn't.

also, what do they do with this money that you are giving them? are they hedge fund traders? day traders? that is a good question to ask if you do invest. if you don't like what they are doing with it, then don't invest either.

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Answer 2 / 6 - Submitted 510 days ago...

Throng715

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You are right - I am leary. While you have comfirmed my fear and asked me questions and gave some advice; you really haven't answered the question.

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Answer 3 / 6 - Submitted 507 days ago...

padre3210

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Read here:
http://www.stockgumshoe.com/2008/06/secured-investment-contracts-legal ly-obligated-181-gains-stansberry.html
"Not so guaranteed". This is a corporate bond selling at a huge discount due to the lack of creditworthiness of the guaranteeing corporation. IF they pay THEN your discounted bond purchase is paid at the non-discounted price.

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Answer 4 / 6 - Submitted 507 days ago...

padre3210

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Read here:
http://www.stockgumshoe.com/2008/06/secured-investment-contracts-legal ly-obligated-181-gains-stansberry.html
"Not so guaranteed". This is a corporate bond selling at a huge discount due to the lack of creditworthiness of the guaranteeing corporation. IF they pay THEN your discounted bond purchase is paid at the non-discounted price.

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Answer 5 / 6 - Submitted 507 days ago...

sidelko

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If you are leary, that should be enough of a downside. but to find other proof on the web about these secured investment contracts

you can do a search on

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22secured+investment+contract%22+scam

which will find

http://www.stockgumshoe.com/2008/06/secured-investment-contracts-legal ly-obligated-181-gains-stansberry.html

which points out that the guarantee is not so guaranteed at all

it appears that the corporate bonds that you would buy are backed by a company called Vertis

And this a bad thing according to this article because....

That’s because Vertis is in the process of going bankrupt — they’re getting ready to merge with another company, erase the current notes (those are the bonds — all of which mature next summer), and give the note holders new notes or perhaps equity in the new company — they’re not actually recommending that you buy these, so I didn’t read the agreements and the reorganization documents very closely.

That article also talks about all the different types of corporate bonds that this program could be, not all of which are good, or always leave the end investor in a good spot. Considered that Vertis is a distressed company probably at this point.

if you would rather own a company via stock, then lend a company money which is what this secured investment contract is, this probably isn't for you either.

This is basically a very very high yield investment, that is also very very high risk.

unless you can stomach something like that, with basically throw away money, I wouldn't invest in an investment like this.

I also found this page, with some other people talking about this

http://www.superiorinvestor.net/showthread.php?t=8066

seems like their consensus is that this is spam and a scam as well. at least until someone makes money with the secured investment contracts

I hope that answers your question.

 
Answer 6 / 6 - Submitted 507 days ago...

EnEm

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Companies issuing Corporate Bonds are required by law to first pay off the Bond holders, then their creditors and then the stock holders, in that order, if they go into bankruptcy.

http://securedinvestmentcontracts.net

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